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LackingLack0 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
normally i come down heavily in favor of the avant garde people and against the reactionaries, but your post i can sort of consent to. i think you are being reasonable and even handed in this comment unlike most critics
kajaja420 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
What question? I asked no question. And if you think he pushed art in a philosophical way, then I'm guessing that yes, it does change something about his music and work, which Cage would have considered his art.
stephentheleaf (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
You asked a question and answered it. He pushed the art on a philosophical way. May be he had a «fake persona» but does it changes something to his music or his work? Plus, he based this composition on the Marcel Duchamp's concept (the ready-made).
kajaja420 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
this isn't pushing art or whatever. cage was probably was a really smart dude who cashed in on philosophical douche bags with a fake persona, kinda like larry the cable guy being from a rich suburban family is to rednecks
BulbousAlsoTapered (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
I remember reading an interview where Cage said that musicians describe him as a philosopher, while philosophers call him a musician. Different people have different tastes - personally I never enjoyed Mahler or Tchaikovsky, but I don't seek out videos of their music to tell everyone that. I prefer the version of this on Hat Art CD 6179, using Anthony Braxton recordings. Regardless of personal taste, Imaginary Landscape No. 5 is a historically important example of early tape composition.
alvinkuo777 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
This kind of experimental music does nothing for me; frankly I prefer Ligeti and Carter and Messiaen. I understand why some people would like this kind of "music," but I am amazed that you prefer this over Mahler and Tchaikovsky. You honestly prefer listening to this over Mahler's Das Lied von de Erde? As experimental this music is, it fails to leave any impression other than warbling of random sounds. I prefer to think of John Cage as an important philosopher than a worthwhile composer.
laurion69 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
And you did not hear variation III yet.. Ah! Ah! Ah! :-)
joerules03 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
the debate is still on whether he was a composer or philospher, however given your statement "he was not a composer simply because he could not compose anything," is just silly. Everything up until late 1940 was taken out of the classical tradition all the way up to Shoenberg(his teacher). Once the 1950's hit, he took a completely different direction with his musical ideas. I don't however think your ignorant mind is implying that.
daveisgr81 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
You don't get it what this stuff is all about.
karoloandria (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
thumbs down to complete ignorant comment!? |