M1t20 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

I don't think straight couples not having kids is ok. I think it's an obligation that we procreate. If you are gay there is an obvious obstacle.Would you agree adoption is a problem? Gay people could help by adopting kids. I know there are laws against it, but those are soon to fall. This could also help out with the abortion problem.My only disagreement towards gay marriage is my own. I don't want to marry a guy.

CherchezMoi (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

It's just that in these forums so many reference the fact that gays cannot concieve together, therefore they should be denied marriage. But for straight couples not having kids is okay.And you're suggesting that in order to marry gays should agree to adopt two kids? Haven't you noticed that there are states that have BANNED gays from adopting children? Gays adopting is equally controversial.I'm not sure what your stance is, you state reasons against gay marriage but say you're for it.

Promatheos (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

How could not procreating possibly be wrong?

M1t20 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Obviously if there is something wrong with the man or woman in a marriage that they can't have kids, it's fine. Many stories in the bible talk about infertile women who are married. I do think it's wrong not to procreate if you have the "working parts". How does this grab you? Gays can get married only if they adopt atleast 2 kids- one male, one female. I think this could work. It's at the very least and interesting concept

CherchezMoi (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

I have married friends who got married knowing they didn't want kids. is that immoral or wrong? My father-in-law remarried at age 78, his wife is 74, they can't have kids. Is that wrong? What about infertile couples? Is that wrong? Not everyone marries with the intention of procreating. You say you're for gay marriage, but are you really?And I don't think that the skyrocketing divirce rate has anything to do with it. "Oh! We came from MONKEYS?? I want a DIVORCE!!"...huh?

HolySausage (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

death by inquisition also skyrocketed after christianity came along...

astoria30001 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Trully outstanding!!!

Rukar666 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Geez, how about this for a thought: If you don't like something, but you can't change anything, why not go away? Now, gareof, i'm not saying you're a nut. For all I know, everything you say is the truth, and everyone else is the nuts. But do you really think you're changing anyone's minds? There's a reason youtube comments have a reputation for essentially being "BUMP ROFL" over and over and over. If you are looking for intellectua discussion, you have wandered to the wrong part of the internet.

a2zdiy (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

*M1t20* "The divorce rate skyrocketed after evolution was forced into the schools in 1963"..and apparently the idiocy rate skyrocketed in your household after you were born.Dude, glad you "have nothing against gay marriage" - now you just need to bring the rest of your thinking out of the bronze age and you'll be OK.

M1t20 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

God wants us to multiply. That's the only reason there is any objection to Gays. I don't know if you knew this, but two guys can't make anything. The divorce rate skyrocketed after evolution was forced into the schools in 1963. Obviously these two things run parallel to eachother and never meet as a reason to why this is going on. I'll take some guidence from The Simpsons Rev. Lovejoy "one the government declares something legal; it's no longer immoral" I have nothing against gay marriage. go4it