woofybigj (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

I guess we aren't used to building roads like that on this side. Probably the overall temporary nature of the construction makes sense. But even then if a temporary method is used then full reclamation back to original contours should take place and I have seen a lot of forestry road that didn't even meet that minimum when deactivated, I am probably biased when I see the rules I have to abide by and those which forestry allows for wood cutting conglomerates. Thanks for the info, I learned a bit.

Oceanside31 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

It looks to me like poor water managment as well as poor puncheon placement. As you can see on the map it looks to me like a culvert was to be placed in the area of work wich would be the cause of water saturation of the soil. As for woofybigj commment. A properly punched and ballasted road is very stable as long as the water has been managed. To full width strip and endhaul a heavily spoil area is insane if you can overland.

Oceanside31 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Using puncheon for road building is called overlanding, you have to do so because the spoil is to deep and if you were to do a full width strip you would have no where for the water to go when you were done, besides the huge costs for end hauling the material away would be uneconomical. As well there is nothing wrong with puncheon roads as long as its done correctly and enough ballast is used to hold up the logging trucks. Poor water managment and poor puncheon placement here in my opinion.

castirondude (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

his safety recommendations are kind of cliche though. What you need is a quicker way to spot hazardous conditions. If it requires extensive engineering and training it won't be practical.

woofybigj (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Has anyone asked why BC forestry allows the use of "Puncheon" in road building. Anyone else, myself included involved in the oilfield on the otherside of the mountains knows that burying wood is the biggest no no you can do. (Unless its muskeg then its called corduroy). So "WCB" how about making them remove the wood,strip the soil properly and key in the fills, that way the hoe is always on a solid and stable surface

munro290 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

I believe that the structure on the cab was only a (FOPS)Falling object protective structure, WCB dosent require a (ROPS)roll over protective structure on a track hoe. I have been operating excavators and cats for the past 15 years in road construction and none of the exavators have a ROPS, just a FOPS required to work in the bush.

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kimchiman1000 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

You sure hit the nail on the head with that comment, bro!

nikanj (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

I'll keep that in mind for if I ever have to drive one of those orange thingos.

philpett48 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Luck man to walk from that one