tundradave24 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

actually youd be wrong its becasue of strength issues. you see when you have a heavy load the frame does need to flex or else stress cracks will occurr. c channel is less likely to break, fully boxed is no good for heavier loads. not much do do with cost.

jeffac500 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

one of the main reasons is the c-channel frame makes it easier to mount utility boxes/flatbeds and anything else to the truck. you would rarely, if ever, see things like that on a 1/2ton pickup.

joemuscle52 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

im assumming the ford super duty trucks have c-channel frames instead of fully boxed frames for cost-cutting reasons. ford's largest revenue stream comes from its trucks, both in terms of volume sold and profit margins per vehicle. i'm sure they could build a fully boxed heavyduty truck frame and still avoid raising he MSRP, but then they wouldn't make any money. however ford tends to dominate that heavy duty truck segment anyway, so i guess they don't see the need to build a stronger frame.

joemuscle52 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

its not a matter of carrying 2000 lbs of manure (as one tundra commercial so proudly bragged about). its a matter of how long the frame will last and how well it will resist warping. put stress on anything and over time it'll lose its shape. it will vary on the amount of time and the stress inflicted on the object. but if the object is more resistant to moving in the first place, its less likely to lose its shape because its more rigid.the test isnt about capability, but rather durability.

wikiwikiwildwest (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

What was I wrong on hotrod? Quote me in an instance where I was wrong.

tundradave24 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

i dont reply to you. I just want the other people that have half a brain to see that a company that is losing money at a crazy pace with no idea of how stop this money loss will not be helped by a bail out all this will do is buy a couple more months for them. and this 500billion extra dollars will effect inflation making even the bailout dollars that they get WORTH LESS. If they are to be bailed out they need some sort of plan that is realistic to repay those debt. cant just stick your hand out

AJFANG06 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

hA! not for long

jeffac500 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

im tired of my inbox saying reply from tundradave then followed by some lame comment or excuse! do u really think we will benefit from the millions of jobs lost/affected negatively if detroit goes under? and were already at a high unemployment rate. makes me sick to know people think like that. thats just a rhetorical question dont reply.

tundradave24 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

1 everyone gets social security. 2. toyota still compensates its worker not just with a pension. And its not going to be $87 per person the total of all of these awfull bailouts is many more billion on the news yesterday they said that will come to $500 per person in this country.only two ways to pay this TAX US or print more money both ways take money out of our pockets to pay for BAD execs from horribly ran companies. that makes no sense. 10+ years of horrible managment now ya want a bailout??

shinobijesus (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

your penis is more rigid than mine while erect. the fact that you have a harder boner really does indicate whos parents build the better human. the fact youve never used it means nothing.wait...